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Gundred Princess Of ENGLANDAge: 2510601085

Name
Gundred Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth about 1060 35 29
Normandy, France

Birth of a sisterConstance Princess Of ENGLAND
about 1061 (Age 12 months)
, , Normandy, France

Birth of a sisterAdaele (Alice) Princess Of ENGLAND
about 1062 (Age 2)
Of, , Normandie

Birth of a sisterAgatha Princess Of ENGLAND
about 1064 (Age 4)
, , Normandy, France

Death of a sisterAlice Or Adbelahide de NORMANDY
1065 (Age 5)

Death of a maternal grandfatherBaudouin V Count Of FLANDERS
September 1, 1067 (Age 7)
Lille, Duchy Of Lower

Birth of a brotherHenry I "Beauclerc" King Of ENGLAND
1068 (Age 8)
Selby, Yorkshire, England

Birth of a son
#1
William II De WARENNE (WARREN)
about 1075 (Age 15)
Of, , Sussex, England

MarriageWilliam De WARRENView family
before 1077 (Age 17)
, , Normandy, France

Death of a maternal grandmotherAdaele (Alix) Princess Of FRANCE
January 8, 1078/79 CE (Age 19)
Monastaere De L'ordre De St. Benoist, Messines, , France

Death of a brotherRichard Prince Of ENGLAND
1081 (Age 21)
, New Forest, Hampshire, England

Birth of a son
#2
Reginald De WARREN
about 1082 (Age 22)
Of, , Sussex, England

Death of a motherMatilda Countess Of Flanders Queen Of ENGLAND
November 2, 1083 (Age 23)
Caen, Normandie

Birth of a daughter
#3
Edith De WARREN
about 1084 (Age 24)
Of, , Sussex, England

Birth of a daughter
#4
Gundred De WARREN
about 1085 (Age 25)
Acre Castle, Acre, Norfolk, England

Death May 27, 1085 (Age 25)
Castle Acre, Acre, Norfolk, England

Burial
Priory, Lewes, Sussex, England

Family with parents - View family
father
William the Conqueror OF NORMANDIE
Birth: October 14, 1024 21 21Falaise, Normandie
Death: September 9, 1087Hermenbraville, Rouen, Normandie
mother
Matilda Countess Of Flanders Queen Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1031 19 28Of Flandres
Death: November 2, 1083Caen, Normandie
 
Marriage: 1050Castle Of, Angi, Normandy, France
4 years
elder brother
Robert II Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1053 28 22, , Normandy, France
Death: February 10, 1133/34 CE, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
2 years
elder brother
Richard Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1054 29 23, , Normandy, France
Death: 1081, New Forest, Hampshire, England
2 years
elder sister
Cecilia Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1055 30 24, , Normandy, France
Death: July 30, 1126, Caen, Calvados, France
2 years
elder brother
William II "Rufus" King Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1056 31 25, , Normandy, France
Death: August 1, 1100, New Forest, Hampshire, England
2 years
elder sister
Alice Or Adbelahide de NORMANDY
Birth: about 1057 32 26Of, , Normandie
Death: 1065
3 years
elder sister
Mathilda Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: 1059 34 28, , Normandy, France
Death: before 1112
3 years
younger sister
Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1061 36 30, , Normandy, France
Death: August 13, 1090, , , England
2 years
younger sister
Adaele (Alice) Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1062 37 31Of, , Normandie
Death: March 8, 1134/35 CE, Marsilly, Aquitaine
-1 years
Gundred Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1060 35 29Normandy, France
Death: May 27, 1085Castle Acre, Acre, Norfolk, England
5 years
younger sister
Agatha Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1064 39 33, , Normandy, France
Death: before 1086, , Calvados, France
5 years
younger brother
Henry I "Beauclerc" King Of ENGLAND
Birth: 1068 43 37Selby, Yorkshire, England
Death: December 1, 1135St Denis, Seine-St Denis, France
Family with William De WARREN - View family
husband
William De WARREN
Birth: about 1055Of, Bellencombe, Seine Inferieure, France
Death: June 24, 1088, Lewes, Sussex, England
Gundred Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1060 35 29Normandy, France
Death: May 27, 1085Castle Acre, Acre, Norfolk, England
 
Marriage: before 1077, , Normandy, France
-1 years
son
William II De WARENNE (WARREN)
Birth: about 1075 20 15Of, , Sussex, England
Death: May 11, 1138, , , England
8 years
son
Reginald De WARREN
Birth: about 1082 27 22Of, , Sussex, England
Death:   — Sp
3 years
daughter
Edith De WARREN
Birth: about 1084 29 24Of, , Sussex, England
2 years
daughter
Gundred De WARREN
Birth: about 1085 30 25Acre Castle, Acre, Norfolk, England

 
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[royalfamRev.FTW]

There was never any question of Gundred being an illegitimate daughter of William I, but rath er it was a case of a fraudulent claim that she was a legitimate daughter. The reason peopl e used to think that Gundred was a daughter of William the Conqueror was because the monks o f Lewes forged some charters which stated that. But I don't think anyone now seriously mainta ins that these charters are authentic.

Gundred is known to have been a sister of Gerbod, who was briefly earl of Chester under Willi am the Conqueror. It's clear they were members of a Flemish family who were advocates of St B ertin's Abbey in St Omer, and who held Oosterzele and Scheldewindeke, although the genealog y isn't altogether clear.

Chris Phillips

Gundred was a sister of Gerbod the Fleming, earl of Chester, and possibly a daughter of Gerbod, hereditary advocate of the abbey of St. Bertin at St. Omer. Many sources name her as the daughter of William the Conqueror and his wife Matilda, and she has also been put forth as a daughter or stepdaughter of William the Conqueror. This, however, was shown to be false many years ago. She died in childbirth.

David C. Douglas contends in "William the Conqueror: The Norman Impact Upon England" (Berkeley: Univ of Calif Press, 1964): "The view once held that Matilda was already married [to Gerbod] when William sought her hand, and was then the mother of a daughter, Gundrada, later the wife of William de Warenne, has now been conclusively disproved by the researches of Chester Waters and Sir Charles Clay. There is no reason to suppose that Gundrada was the daughter of either William or Matilda."

DD says: "Sister of Gerbod the Fleming,advocate of Saint-Bertin and earl of Chester in 1070, and Frederick. Wife of William I de Warenne. She died in childbirth on 27 May 1085 and was buried in Lewes priory (Mon. Ang. v,12). EYC viii,pp. 6-7; A. J. Farrington, 'A note on Gherbod the Fleming, Earl of Chester', Journal of the Chester Archaeological Society li (1984)."

Hope this helps. Polly Zashin

PLM: There is some doubt in my mind, however. Per your earlier assistance to me; I do now have "The Chartulary of the Priory of St. Pancras of Lewes", vol. I, ed. L. F. Salzman, and published by the Sussex Record Society in 1032. There is a lengthy charter by William Warrene nearly six pages in length; so I will not quote it's entirety, but this bit is curious.

Page 3:

"..., I have given for the welfare of my soul and that of Gundrada my wife and for the soul of my lord King William who brought me into England and by whose license I caused the monks to come and who confirmed my former gift, and for the welfare of my lady Queen Maud the mother of my wife and for the welfare of my lord King William his son after whose coming to England I made this charter and who made me Earl of Surrey,..." UNQ

PLM: It is quite clear from this charter, that Gundrada is the daughter of Queen Maud, and the lack of a reference to William I being the father of Gundrada is highly significant. If I were to rely solely on this evidence, I would have to conclude that Gundrada was NOT the daughter of William I at all.

People have referred to forged charters from Lewes, but what is the basis of these assertions, and which references discuss these "supposedly proven forgeries"? The premise of such an accusation appears to be up side down, in relation to the above charter. It seems illogical to forge a document that makes Gundrada the daughter of the Queen, as opposed to the King of England; which would essentially diminish her social standing, instead of elevating it, as most forgeries tend to do?

Cheers, Phil