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Geoffrey Prince Of ENGLANDAge: 2711581186

Name
Geoffrey Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth September 23, 1158 25
, , , England

Birth of a half-brotherArch-Deacon Of LINCOLN Peter
about 1159 (Age 3 months)
Of, , , England

Birth of a brotherPhilip Prince Of ENGLAND
about 1160 (Age 15 months)
Of, , , England

Birth of a sisterEleanor Princess Of ENGLAND
October 13, 1162 (Age 4)
Domfront, Normandie

Birth of a sisterJoanna Princess Of ENGLAND
October 1165 (Age 7)
Angers, France

Birth of a brotherJohn "Lackland" King Of ENGLAND
December 24, 1166 (Age 8)
Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England

Birth of a half-brotherProvost Of BEVERLY Morgan
about 1168 (Age 9)
, , , Wales

Death of a paternal grandmotherMatilda (Maud) Empress Of GERMANY
September 10, 1169 (Age 10)
Notre Dame, Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France

Birth of a half-sisterAlix Princess Of FRANCE
about 1170 (Age 11)
, , , France

Birth of a half-brotherWilliam "Longespee" Prince Of ENGLAND
about 1173 (Age 14)
Of, , , England

MarriageConstance Countess Of BRETAGNEView family
July 1181 (Age 22)

Death of a brotherHenry Prince Of ENGLAND
June 11, 1183 (Age 24)
Chcateau De Mortel, Turenne, Aquitaine

Birth of a daughter
#1
Eleanor Princess Of ENGLAND
1184 (Age 25)
Of, , , France

Birth of a daughter
#2
Maud Princess Of ENGLAND
about 1185 (Age 26)
Of, , , France

Death August 19, 1186 (Age 27)
, Paris, , France

Birth of a son
#3
Arthur I Duke Of BRITTANY
April 30, 1187 (8 months after death)
, Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, France

Burial
Notre Dame, Paris, , France

Family with parents - View family
father
Henry II "Plantagenet" King Of ENGLAND
Birth: March 5, 1132/33 CE 19 30Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: July 6, 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
mother
Elbeonore Princess Of AQUITAINE
Birth:   — Chcateau De Belin, Bordeaux, Aquitaine
Death: March 31, 1204Poitiers, Poitou, Aquitaine
 
Marriage: May 11, 1152, Bordeaux, Gironde, France
3 months
elder brother
William Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: August 17, 1152 19, Le Mans, France
Death: April 1156Wallingford Castle, Wallingford, Berkshire, England
3 years
elder brother
Henry Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: March 28, 1155 22Bermandsey Palace, London, England
Death: June 11, 1183Chcateau De Mortel, Turenne, Aquitaine
21 months
elder sister
Matilda Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: 1156 22, London, Middlesex, England
Death: June 28, 1189, , Brunswick, Germany
20 months
elder brother
Richard I "Coeur De Lion", King Of ENGLAND
Birth: September 13, 1157 24Beaumont Palace, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Death: April 6, 1199, Chalus, , France
1 year
Geoffrey Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: September 23, 1158 25, , , England
Death: August 19, 1186, Paris, , France
2 years
younger brother
Philip Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1160 26Of, , , England
Death:   — , Infant
3 years
younger sister
Eleanor Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: October 13, 1162 29Domfront, Normandie
Death: October 25, 1214Las Huelgas, Burgos, Spain
3 years
younger sister
Joanna Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: October 1165 32Angers, France
Death: September 4, 1199Rouen, Normandie
15 months
younger brother
John "Lackland" King Of ENGLAND
Birth: December 24, 1166 33Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Death: October 19, 1216, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
Father’s family with Rosamond De CLIFFORD - View family
father
Henry II "Plantagenet" King Of ENGLAND
Birth: March 5, 1132/33 CE 19 30Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: July 6, 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
step-mother
Rosamond De CLIFFORD
Birth: about 1136 23 18Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
Death: about 1176Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England
 
Marriage:   — (not Married)
half-brother
William "Longespee" Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1173 39 37Of, , , England
Death: March 7, 1225/26 CE, , , England
Father’s family with an unknown individual - View family
father
Henry II "Plantagenet" King Of ENGLAND
Birth: March 5, 1132/33 CE 19 30Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: July 6, 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
 
Marriage:   — Unmd
half-brother
Arch-Deacon Of LINCOLN Peter
Birth: about 1159 25Of, , , England
10 years
half-brother
Provost Of BEVERLY Morgan
Birth: about 1168 34, , , Wales
Death: about 1217Fountains Abbey, Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Father’s family with Ykenai Or Hikenai Concubine Of ENGLAND - View family
father
Henry II "Plantagenet" King Of ENGLAND
Birth: March 5, 1132/33 CE 19 30Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: July 6, 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
step-mother
Ykenai Or Hikenai Concubine Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1131Of, Westminster, Middlesex, England
 
Marriage:   — Unmd
half-brother
Geoffrey PLANTAGENET
Birth:   — Of, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Death: December 18, 1212Notredameduparc, Seine-Maritime, France
Mother’s family with Louis VII King Of FRANCE - View family
step-father
Louis VII King Of FRANCE
Birth:   — , Reims, Champagne, France
Death: September 18, 1180, Paris, Isle De France, France
mother
Elbeonore Princess Of AQUITAINE
Birth:   — Chcateau De Belin, Bordeaux, Aquitaine
Death: March 31, 1204Poitiers, Poitou, Aquitaine
 
Marriage:   — , Bordeaux, Aquitaine
half-sister
Marie Princess Of FRANCE
Birth: 1145, , , France
Death: March 11, 1197/98 CE
26 years
half-sister
Alix Princess Of FRANCE
Birth: about 1170, , , France
Death: 1221
Family with Constance Countess Of BRETAGNE - View family
Geoffrey Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: September 23, 1158 25, , , England
Death: August 19, 1186, Paris, , France
wife
Constance Countess Of BRETAGNE
Birth: June 12, 1166 38 13Of, , Bretagne, France
Death: August 31, 1201, Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, France
 
Marriage: July 1181
4 years
daughter
Eleanor Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: 1184 25 17Of, , , France
Death: August 10, 1241Bristol Castle, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
2 years
daughter
Maud Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: about 1185 26 18Of, , , France
Death:   — Dy
2 years
son
Arthur I Duke Of BRITTANY
Birth: April 30, 1187 28 20, Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, France
Death: April 3, 1203, Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France

 
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[royalfamRev.FTW]

The best thing the Constance theory has going for it is drama. It would make a good movie. Joan was born somewhere around 1187/1188. Constance was carrying Geoffrey's child in 1186 when Geoffrey was killed. The child, the ill-fated Arthur, was born posthumous. This is the same Arthur, nephew of John, that John allegedly murdered. He had to do penance for his part in the act. So -- if Constance were also Joan's mother, Arthur was Joan's stepbrother and also a stepson to John! Also, Henry II forced Constance to remarry after the death of Geoffrey to one of his favorites, Randulph de Blundeville, Earl of Chester. One could speculate that the reason she needed to marry a man that outlived her by 31 years is that she was pregnant and needed a husband, but the chronology is very tight, as Henry died in 1189 shortly after forcing the match. Great movie material, but it seems a little doubtful.

The best thing we can learn from this is that Joan's papal decree shows that no one wanted her to know who her mother really was. It was a secret then and has remained that way through the ages.

All we can learn from John's whereabouts was that he was in both France and England at the time Joan was likely conceived. It looks as though the identity of Clementia will be a mystery for a very long time.

I was hoping we had something new with the land transfers and the wife of Joan's custodian being named Clemence, but there are too many possible interpretations.

-Ken KHF333@aol.com